{"id":48650,"date":"2025-05-13T13:33:12","date_gmt":"2025-05-13T12:33:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/londoncult.co.uk\/?p=48650"},"modified":"2026-01-14T23:39:55","modified_gmt":"2026-01-14T23:39:55","slug":"serious-jokes-alexander-panchin-tells-london-about-genetic-engineering","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/londoncult.co.uk\/en\/serious-jokes-alexander-panchin-tells-london-about-genetic-engineering\/","title":{"rendered":"Serious Jokes; Alexander Panchin Tells London About Genetic Engineering"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A well-known science communicator and author of books debunking pseudoscientific paradigms, Panchin came to London with a provocatively titled program: &#8220;Playing God: Has Science Crossed the Line?&#8221; One might expect a sermon on scientific atheism sprinkled with quotes from materialist Ludwig Feuerbach\u2014but not at all. A regular viewer of Panchin\u2019s YouTube channel knows exactly what to expect: a fact-filled, detail-rich lecture, not a philosophical free-for-all.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cScientists are playing God, and they\u2019re bound to go too far. Today, I\u2019m going to explain why scientists aren\u2019t playing God\u2014they\u2019ve already outplayed Him long ago. We\u2019re doing things that simply don\u2019t occur in nature,\u201d Panchin said at the start.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What followed was a dense, two-hour stream of facts, comparisons, and conclusions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Of course, genetically modified organisms (GMOs) came up\u2014often feared by the public. Panchin explained that nature itself regularly performs the same processes: \u201cWe are all mutants compared to our parents; gene mutations happen constantly.\u201d Natural gene transfers exist, he said, pointing to the sweet potato: \u201cAll sweet potatoes contain genes of bacterial origin.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The lecture was accompanied by a well-crafted visual presentation\u2014clear, humorous, and most importantly, interactive. The audience could access the slides via their smartphones and participate in polls on key topics: Would you want to carry a child in an artificial womb? Would you choose the healthiest embryo\u2014or one with specific physical traits? The crowd responded with laughter, clearly enjoying the unexpected results.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Panchin, a seasoned speaker and scientist, knows that a joke often works better than a slogan. When talking about transitional forms in evolution, he showed a hilarious hybrid of a motorcycle and a car\u2014an absurd contraption that could\u2019ve come from the dystopian worlds of the Strugatsky brothers:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThey might not be very functional or viable! That\u2019s when the engineer steps in\u2014and that\u2019s where genetic engineers get accused of \u2018playing God.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a ref=\"magnificPopup\" href=\"https:\/\/londoncult.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/panchin_8-1.jpg\" data-lbwps-width=\"3024\" data-lbwps-height=\"4032\" data-lbwps-srcsmall=\"https:\/\/londoncult.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/panchin_8-1-450x600.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/londoncult.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/panchin_8-1-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-48656\" srcset=\"https:\/\/londoncult.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/panchin_8-1-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/londoncult.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/panchin_8-1-450x600.jpg 450w, https:\/\/londoncult.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/panchin_8-1-356x475.jpg 356w, https:\/\/londoncult.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/panchin_8-1-600x800.jpg 600w, https:\/\/londoncult.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/panchin_8-1-scaled.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>In two hours, with humor and clarity, Panchin not only introduced the audience to the latest scientific breakthroughs, but also explained basic concepts\u2014DNA structure, the Dolly the sheep experiment, and how different countries regulate scientific progress. He made sure not to assume everyone in the room was a biologist.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>He also touched on practical uses of genetic experimentation\u2014for example, how a virus shell that can enter a specific organ might be used to deliver medication directly to that site.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Scientists, Panchin said, are doing phenomenal things\u2014intervening in the very fabric of life, in the DNA molecule itself\u2014and he showed how elegantly they can alter the rules of genetic complementarity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It seemed no one in the room disputed the value of scientific progress. Still, audience polls sometimes yielded surprising results. When asked whether a scientist should face prison for conducting unnecessary (but non-harmful) research, the winning answer was unexpectedly:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;God will judge him&#8221;\u2014and the audience burst into laughter.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>He also spoke about prenatal\u2014or perhaps pre-prenatal\u2014genetic engineering: such as creating a child from three parents by replacing a faulty part of a cell with a healthy one from a third donor. He described experimental mice born from two males\u2014though a female was still needed to carry the pregnancy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Artificial wombs were also discussed (accompanied by a slide of a hoofed fetus inside a complex plastic bag). They work, but current technology only shortens pregnancy by about three months; it can\u2019t yet replace the entire process. Why not? \u201cWe don\u2019t know yet,\u201d Panchin said. \u201cOnly theories exist so far.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Naturally, the audience had questions. One asked: who\u2019s to say these brilliant genetic ideas weren\u2019t implanted in scientists\u2019 minds by God Himself? Another asked where the moral and ethical lines of experimentation should be drawn.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Panchin responded thoughtfully, especially regarding genetic testing for prospective parents:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cRoutine tests cover the vast majority of genetic disorders. There are rare ones\u2014you can do full genome screening and consult a specialist to check for anything unusual. It costs about $1,000, which isn\u2019t much, considering the cost of childbirth and raising a child. The question is: how much is that worth to you? Maybe those same funds would be better spent on education or healthcare for your future child.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As a media outlet focused on culture and the arts, we couldn\u2019t resist asking Panchin about talent and science:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u2014If we manipulate the brain, can we create a Titian?<br>\u2014Of course, genetics can influence abilities, including creative ones. But we don\u2019t know how to tweak the brain to turn someone into a da Vinci. That\u2019s the problem\u2014everyone\u2019s neural connections are different. We don\u2019t know how neurons are interconnected in one person, let alone how to combine two people\u2019s neural networks. Even their total neuron counts may differ.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a ref=\"magnificPopup\" href=\"https:\/\/londoncult.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/1i8a1874-1.jpg\" data-lbwps-width=\"5190\" data-lbwps-height=\"3460\" data-lbwps-srcsmall=\"https:\/\/londoncult.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/1i8a1874-1-600x400.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/londoncult.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/1i8a1874-1-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-48658\" srcset=\"https:\/\/londoncult.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/1i8a1874-1-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/londoncult.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/1i8a1874-1-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/londoncult.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/1i8a1874-1-713x475.jpg 713w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">From personal archive<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>After the lecture, Panchin signed books and continued chatting with attendees. Forgive me, serious scientists, but history seems to be circling back again\u2014in the 14th century, the Pope banned alchemists, yet they kept working in their laboratories, which were so different and yet so similar to today\u2019s high-tech labs. They made mistakes, searched, and sometimes discovered. There was less knowledge then\u2014but the thirst for science was the same. And, by the way, finding gold or the Philosopher\u2019s Stone was important, but not the ultimate goal. The ultimate goal was man\u2014to elevate him to new, unreachable heights. Because in the end, that might still be science\u2019s greatest mission.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Alexander Panchin&#8217;s lecture at the Mason Leasure Theatre was completely sold out. 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